2nd Battalion - 9th Marines - Hell in a Helmet

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2nd Battalion 9th Marine Network
"Hell in a Helmet"
Richard "Red" Hill P.O. Box 527, Waldo, FL 32694 352-468-1648


January 2004

Mail Call Ladies!

Time to get out the magnifying glass and check out the Network Roster! As you have seen I have reversed course and have sent the “Runner to all 2/9 Veterans. I came to my senses and realized that there are many other MARINE “Brothers” who are listed and are looking for their old buddies. No matter what era we served, we are all “Brothers” and that’s what this Network is here for.

Reunion 2003

Well, once again we had one fine reunion. This year we had the largest turnout ever. We had 103 former 2/9ers sign in the logbook. There were quite a number of “new” faces here this year. The pizza party went off without a hitch and every one seemed to enjoy the party. A special thanks to Kenton Dean, Captain Bob Driver, Jim Murphy, Eugene Long, Ted Cleckler, Steve Roman, Morton Ford III, Jim Hahn, Captain Pat Pearce, Robbie Wright, Joe Henebury, Darrell Butler, Joe Murphy, Glenn Siegler, Mario Silvestrini, Richard Wallis, Ken Moody, Dennis Becton, Robert Nixon, James Costello, Ron "Bo" Bowen, George Kerr and Ed Gorman for donating the dollars to make the pizzas happen. Also want to thank Steve Clemons and Garrette Peck for providing the cakes for the Marine Corps Birthday. Also want to say Thank You to my daughter Rickie, to my wife Darnell, to Judy Joyce and Pat Jackson for all the help they provided selling the 2/9 caps, t-shirts and other paraphernalia. And for helping get all of the birthday cake handed out!

A Special Thanks to Charles “Herc” Salerno

Dear 2/9 Marines,

It is with great pride I write to the 2/9 community in honor of my father, Charles Salerno or otherwise known as “Herc.” Charles served in the 2nd battalion 9th Marines in Vietnam with Fox Company in 66-67 and is currently a member of the 2/9 network. I’m very proud of his service to his country and his continued participation in veteran activities. I am most proud of his patriotic artwork, a piece called “Honoring & Remembering”. This work is my father’s tribute to his fallen comrades in the Vietnam conflict. The original hangs in the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum in Chicago, IL and has received national recognition from Vietnam Veterans of America, Colin Powell, Senator McCain, and other veterans across the country. Being that he is a 2/9 comrade, I wanted pass along the website I made in his honor (www.CHARLESSALERNO.com) The site is a biography of his life, Vietnam experience, and artwork. It has several pictures of the War: his comrades, battles, letters to home sketches, etc. Thank you for your time. Semper Fi.

Sincerely,

Mark Salerno
(Proud son of the most patriotic man I know)

For any of you who visit the 2/9 website Charles painting “Honoring & Remembering” is the background for the “Our Men On The Wall” Page. Some of the names on the wall in the background of this piece are of 2/9 fallen comrades, so it has special meaning. I wish to thank “Herc” for allowing us to use it on our website.

Thanks Herc,
Semper Fi Brother

“Red”

Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day
Jose' G. Ramos

To my friends, fellow Veterans and family. In April of 2000 I began a campaign to designate a day of remembrance for our Vietnam Veterans who had returned from the war to a "cold shoulder" reception here at home in the United States of America. My proposal was to just designate a WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS DAY, just one day out of the year when America could open up it's arms and it's heart and finally just say to all the Vietnam Veterans in their community and in their lives; "Welcome home". It was a tall order to imagine that the President of the United States would consider or even hear of my proposal. I have been in contact with the Honorable Congresswoman Linda T. Sanchez and the Honorable Congresswoman Grace Napolitano both from my area. It was with their help that the possibility of a WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS DAY began to see the light of day and become more of a reality. Now the offices of both Congresswomen are working with the folks in DC and the White House. The proposal has been presented to the President of the United States, George W. Bush. It is hard for me to describe to you how I feel personally inside for what is evolving with this day of recognition but I also know the effort is far from over. In the beginning I printed ten thousand postcards and handed them out over the last two years asking people to just place a $.27 cent stamp on the postcard and return them to my PO Box 556 Whittier, CA 90608. The postcards ask President George W. Bush to support and act on this day for our Vietnam Veterans. Not too far from now, on May 15, 2004, I will leave Whittier Ca. and begin my bicycle ride across America. On June 12, 2004, I will be at the White House to deliver the postcards, letters and all the proclamations signed by those in Congress and by Mayors all across America, including my town of Whittier, CA which was the first in the country to designate January 27 as WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS DAY, now other cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles CA. have seen the greatness in this cause and have joined the ranks of those who believe it is time to set an old wrong right. There will be an update on my website http://WHVVD.ORG on proclamations, routes, dates, sponsors etc. But for now I need your help. I need those letters and postcards more than ever. The office of Congresswoman Linda T. Sanchez say the volume of postcards and letters will make a difference. I will pay the postage if you will allow me to send you twenty of my postcards and you will have twenty folks just send them in. They are already addressed and the message to the president is also included. The momentum is on and we just need a little more push from all of you who feel this a good thing and want to be a part of it. The postcards may be sent by anyone who cares. We also have our WELCOME HOME VIETNAM VETERANS DAY buttons for five bucks so you too can show your support for this day which is way over due. Just visit the website, it will give you most of the information you need. If you have any questions please email me at wlcmhmveterans@aol.com Or call me at 562.696.3965. We have made a lot of progress. Please send in your letters/postcards and help me to distribute mine. God bless you and please pray for us who are trying to put this thing together and for all the Vietnam Veterans who are still waiting for their "Welcome Home". God bless.

Jose' G. Ramos
Team Coordinator/Founder
welcomehomevietnamveteransday.org

Extremism in the Marines
Sent by
Lt. Lee Cobb
Platoon Commander, Golf Company 67-68

To all my fellow extremists, God Bless You and Semper Fi. Now carry on.

Sara E. Lister, the Army's top personnel official and, according to Rowan Scarborough in a recent article in the Washington Times, the Pentagon's most ardent advocate of women in combat, in a public forum called the Marines "extremists" and "a little dangerous." "I think the Army is much more connected to society than the Marines are," Mrs. Lister told a seminar on October 26, 1997. "The Marines are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous."

Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Charles Krulak, fired back. "Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara Lister has been quoted as characterizing the Marine Corps as 'extremists,'" Gen. Krulak said. "Such a depiction would summarily dismiss 222 years of sacrifice and dedication to the nation. It would dishonor the hundreds of thousands of Marines whose blood has been shed in the name of freedom. "Citizens from all walks of life have donned the Marine Corps uniform," continued the Commandant, " and gone to war to defend this nation, never to return. Honor, courage and commitment are not extreme." I have to assume that Ms. Lister includes all Marines who have ever worn the "... checkerboard fancy uniforms and stuff..." that she mocked in her speech. If she does, and clearly that was her intent, I have to address her remarks, and then make a few of my own.

Are Marines 'extremists'? Dr. Daniel W. Polland, a former Corpsman in the 1st Battalion, 9th Marines and now a physician in Colorado said this at a recent gathering of veterans: "O Lord, we have long known that prayer should include confession. Therefore on behalf of the Marines... I confess their sins: * Lord, they're just not in step with today's society; * They are unreasonable in clinging to old-fashioned ideas like patriotism, duty, honor, and country; * They hold radical ideas believing that they are their brother's keeper and responsible for the Marine on their flank; * They have been seen standing when colors pass, singing the National Anthem at ball games, and drinking toasts to fallen comrades; * Not only that, they have been observed standing tall, taking charge and wearing their hair unfashionably short; * They have taken John Kennedy's words too seriously and are overly concerned with what they can do for their country instead of what this country can do for them; * They take the Pledge of Allegiance to heart and believe that their oath is to be honored; * Forgive them, Lord, for being stubborn men and women who hold fast to such old-fashioned values; * After all, what more can you expect? They're Marines! 0 Lord our God, bless our misguided ideals, continue to raise up in this nation strong leaders and deliver us from "me first" managers and "don't ask me" followers. Be our honored guest this day. Let it be a day of laughter, good food, good drink, and the telling of tall tales and legends that occasionally exceed the truth. Watch over and keep safe those who wear this nation's uniform with special attention to their families everywhere."

And a former Air Force officer, Vietnam veteran and fighter pilot, Toby Hughes of San Antonio, said, in response to Ms. Lister's ill-thought remarks, "... I never knew many Marines who were only a "little" dangerous. Most of them seem to be a LOT dangerous. That, I think, is the idea."

Are Marines as 'extremist' as Ms. Lister would have us believe? * We believe we are Marines up until the day we die, at which time we become dead Marines; * We believe in the Marine Corps, God, country, Mom, apple pie (or enchiladas, in my case), and often in that order (and only a half-hearted apology to those who believe that God comes first!); * We believe that Marines draw the Guard duty in Heaven, because the Marines' Hymn says so; * We believe the Marine Corps Guidebook to be the finest book ever written; * We believe in the three B's: Bullets, Beans, and Band-Aids; * We believe the Marine Corps is bound by honor, guided by the past, and driven by tradition; * We believe that Marines in service today are our direct descendants; * We believe that Lewis 'Chesty' Puller was the greatest American who ever lived, with former Commandant Al Gray a close second, and former Secretary of the Navy (and the most decorated Marine of the Vietnam War) James Webb coming in third; * We believe that Duty is a Right; * We believe that Service to our country is a God-given opportunity; * We believe only two types of people exist: Marines, and everybody else; which is what probably gives you, Ms. Lister, all of your sleepless nights; * We believe that Patriotism is Duty, not to be taken lightly; * We believe in the Brotherhood of Marines; * We believe that the blood shed by our brothers who went before us gave us Life; * We believe that the Marines in service today are the finest Marines who have ever served, even as... * We believe the 1st Marine Division wrote the most glorious chapter in the history of American arms at the Chosin Reservoir in Korea in 1950; * We believe in Honor, Duty, Service, Patriotism, the United States of America, and the United States Marine Corps; * We believe in the Freedom of the American citizen, and have proved it, tens of thousands of times.

Are United States Marines 'extremists'? Yes, Ms. Lister, we are: * We are extreme in our pride. * We are extreme, even insufferable, in our Brotherhood. * We are extreme in our devotion to duty, to service, to country, to you. If we are, at times, ill-served, ill-equipped, ill-fed, ill-housed, we have never completely been without air support (Thanks, Toby, Air Force and Marine pilots and Naval aviators), without naval support (Thanks, all you sailors), without medevacs (both Marine and Army), without gunship support (Marine and Army), without the undying belief in ourselves and each other.

The Chief of Naval Operations would never be called a Sailor. The General of the Army would never be called a Soldier. The Chief of Staff of the Air Force would never be called an Airman. The Commandant of the Marine Corps is damned proud to be called a Marine.

I admit: I am old and gray, and I no longer move as fast as once I did. My active duty service is long behind me, but the memory of those Marines with whom I served is as fresh today as it was yesterday or 30 years ago. And my recollection of their devotion to duty serves me now, just as it did then, so long ago in Vietnam. We will always be 'extreme.' We know no other way to live, to serve, to pay back our country for what we have and for what we have earned. And what we have earned, Ms. Lister, is a title. A name. A right. What we have earned is, I believe, something which you will never understand, nor do you, I believe, want to. What we have earned you can never take from us. Dr. Pollard said it best, and I can only add: We have earned, by the service and blood of our brothers, the right to be known as United States Marines.

Command Chronologies

If you want Command Chronologies and After Action Reports for 2/9 write to the following address:

Department of the Navy, Headquarters United States Marine Corps, Historical Center, 1254 Charles Morris Street, SE, Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5040

They will send you a CD with all the unit records and actions.

Replacing Lost Medals

You can replace lost service medals by filling out a standard Form 180 (request Pertaining to Military Records). You can request via a copy of the form by visiting their web site at http://www.nara.gov/regional/mpr.html. If you are using the mail send to: Navy Liaison Office, National Personnel Records Center, Room 3475/ N-314, 9700 Page Blvd., St. Louis, MO 63132-5100. Whether using the internet or by mail you need to send proof that you received these medals. Providing a copy of your DD 214 will satisfy that requirement. Also include your full name, DOB, Service Number, Social Security Number, approximate dates of service and your return address.

Personnel Rosters

If you are looking for the names of the men that you served with you can request that info’ by writing the DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY, Headquarters USMC, Personnel Management Support Branch, 2008 Elliot Rd., Quantico, VA 22134-5030.
Just write that you are looking for men that you served with and give them the time frame and unit you served with.
You might also be able to request copies of the Unit Diaries at this place.

Circumstances of Death

If you are looking for information on how a “Brother” or loved one died you can request the circumstances of the death from:

NATIONAL PERSONNEL RECORDS CENTER
MILITARY PERSONNEL RECORDS
9700 PAGE AVENUE
ST. LOUIS, MO 63132-5100

Include service number if you know it or at the least all of the info’ surrounding this event.

2/9 Accessories

Wanted to let you know that there are 2/9 caps, t-shirts, pins and patches available. Caps are $15 T-Shirts are M-XL $15, XXL $17, Lapel/hat pins $5, Patch (3” ) $7. All prices include shipping costs. Make checks payable to Richard “Red” Hill.

2/9 Web-Site
www.2ndbattalion9thmarines.org

If you haven’t been to the website lately I have added a new message board that allows the capability of uploading pictures to your messages. You can change font colors, add “smileys,” place direct links to e-mail addresses or websites. It is an upgrade to the former message board. When you go there you will need to re-register. The message board has helped a lot of 2/9ers find some of the men who served with them and were on the same ops.’ It can be real interesting read.

Change of Address!

I just want to drop a note that if you happen to move in the near future please think of the 2/9 Network and a change of address. When I get a return from the post office it runs 92¢. Last mail-out there were over 100+ returns. If you have a computer just send me an e-mail. I am the “Contact the Battalion Scribe” on the 2/9 website.

Reunion Planned For Golf Company 1968-69

Glen Cornelius, Tel: 314-576-5418 or E-mail (glen4@swbell.net) and Jim Horn, Tel: 405-372-3515, or E-mail (jmhorn03@swbell.net) are organizing a reunion for former Golf Company Brothers to be held on or about April 21st, 2004. All interested parties please get in touch.

Network 2004 Reunion

If you want to get an early jump on next Novembers reunion, which will be held as usual, same place, same time (Nov 9-11th)
Telephone 1-800-424-1501. Group Number is #2560. Room Rates are $75 for single, double, triple.

These Folks Keep The Network Going!

At this time I want to thank Jim Chase, John & Wanda Carson, Lloyd E. Moore, Lindsey J. Suddarth, Jay Langford, Joseph Stine, Eugene Long, Charles Mahone, Bob Forsee, Tom Callum, Ted Licitra, Col. Gaven Sarvinski, David Wray, Dennis Voge, Melvin Clements, Col. William Kent, Bernie Truschka, Ed Gorman, Glenn Siegler, Col. Jerry Diffee, Joe Mannino, Cecil "Buck" Buxton, Jim Horn, Richard Ambose, William Jones, Watson Burton, George Kinnaman, Ralph Martinez, William Negrelli, Lewis J. Weber, Mario Silvestrini, Jim Sadler, Bill Edwards, David Torrel, Warren Atkinson, Dennis Becton, Tom Reasch, Jack Foster, G. Byron Norman, Van Olson, Jim Duncan, Paul Bell, Robert Bennett, Kenton Dean, Jack Smith, Alvin Baldree, Jim Beaman, Ted Licitra, Jim Murphy, Chuck Smith, Robert Arboneaux, Eugene Long, Glenn Elvey, Ted Cleckler, Everado Reyes, Gary Diehl, Raymond John, Bill Henderson, Timothy Forbes, Craig "Swanny" Swanson, Walter Wood, Harvey Barnum, Robert Green, Andrew Wiemann, Steve Roman, Andy Puttagio, Jack Swallows, Robert Mumper, Col. Bob Modjeski, Morton Ford III, Lee Cobb, Capt. William Whorton, Tim DeWolf, Jim Hahn, Capt. Pat Pearce, John Moseley, Ken Tomlinson, James Rogers, Col. Tom Richards, Tom Van Winkle, David Byrne, Geoffrey Steiner, Robbie Wright, Wayne Willison, Kevin Jewers, Bruce "Doc" Collison, Charles Cooper, Mike Schramm, Garrette Peck Tom Spencer, Dave Petree, James and Pat Jackson, Joe Henebury, Dave & RuthAnne Bigler, Henry Lopez, Gerald Hornick, Gary Griffis, Joe Murphy, Col. John Peeler, LTCOL. Mike Bresnan, Ronald Wecht, Kenny Blankenship, Ray Nieto, Robert Nixon, Phil Franklin, Mike Fitch, Robert Barclay, Ron "Bo" Bowen, Tom Nicholas, Darrell Butler, Chaplain Bill Childers, Walter Richter, Kathy Upchurch, John Goulart and all the folks who made donations at the reunion. Without the help from Marines and family like yourselves I could not possibly keep this going. YOU are the support behind the 2/9 Network and I thank You all very much!

Since the last Battalion Runner, The Network has picked up 122 new men. One pre-Vietnam era, 99 Vietnam era and 22 post-Vietnam era Brothers. I am really proud that this Network is out here to serve you. Once again let me say “Welcome Aboard.” I do hope that I have helped to link you up with some old friends that you have lost contact with over the years.

As I stated earlier I had tried to “tweak” what I have been doing by saying in the last newsletter that I was just going to correspond with Vietnam Era Veterans. And then I then I said “What the hell am I doing!” In 1984 when I started looking for my guys in Echo Company I found a whole lot of other 2/9ers that were looking for their guys. And in 2004 there are 2/9ers still looking. They search the internet and stumble upon the 2/9 Network. Yesterday there was another “Member Addition”. I put the 2/9 Network out there and as the “House Mouse” I have a responsibility to all of us no matter what year we served. We are all linked to one another in this fraternity. So as long as I am able I will keep this Network alive and serve all that served with 2/9.

The Network has been going strong now for 20 years. Who’d a thunk it! And it’s you that has made it all happen. A tremendous “OOORAH” goes out to all of you for making it what it is today. Thanks so much for your support and words of encouragement.

So as usual, if you can contribute anything to the Network it would be greatly appreciated. As I mentioned we have picked up another 122 “Brothers” since the last “Runner” and it’s your donations that keep this Network up and running.

If you do decide to make a contribution, once again, please make checks payable to Richard “Red” Hill. The bank no longer takes checks payable to the 2/9 Network. If you are uncomfortable with this I fully understand.

If I’ve left out anything I apologize. I have a lot of “Senior” moments. And again, if you have anything you want to include in the “Runner” get in touch. If you are planning a reunion let me know. How better to get the word out to over 1600 Brothers.

Wishing you all the best in the coming year.

Semper Fidelis

“Red”

Echo Company
3rd Platoon
3rd Squad
68-69